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DECLASSIFIED by DNI Ratcliffe on 29 May 2020,Ill 1111 1111. START DATE 01 05 2016,PARTICIPANTS From,FLYNN Mike KISL YAK Sergey. Lt General Mike FLYNN phones Ambassador Sergey KISL YAK to express his condolences on. the death of GRU Director Igor SERGUN who died unexpectedly today from unknown causes. START DATE 12 22 2016,START DATE 12 23 2016,PARTICIPANTS. To General Flynn, RE A follow up call between General Flynn and Kislyak Sergey Ivanovich. Pchelyakov calls General Flynn and asks ifhe can connect him with Ambassador Kislyak Flynn. replies Yeah please put him on, This is General Flynn Kislyak Yeah General Thank you for picking up my call I just.
wanted as a follow up To share with you several points One That your previous telephone. call I reported to Moscow and it was considered at the highest level in Russia Secondly here. we are planning taking in account and rally PH your arguments to raise ahem a proposal of. idea of continued consultations in NY We will do it today To give time for working out. something ahem that would be maybe less controversial. Flynn OK that That s good news Kislyak interrupts to continue with his points Kislyak. Secondly PH if ah the orders will put it in to the vote and I understand my colleagues tell me. that Egyptians are not pressing for the vote But may be others. Flynn continues you know that the strategic goal is stability in the Middle East That s the. strategic goal And and you know between you and I and you know this and we know this. you know between Moscow and Washington We will not achieve stability in the Middle East. without working with each other against this radical Islamist crowd Period I am very adamant. about that and I want to make sure that you know that and in the conversations that we ll have in. the future ifthere is a common e common threat that we face Kislyak I agree with. you Flynn and I am I am still sickened sickened by the by the murder of your. ambassador to Turkey And if if Russia Kislyak interrupts Flynn General If you allow. me to cont ah to complete my presentation of these points So we will try to help ah to. give additional time for the conversation on this issue But if it is put on vote for historical. reasons as I explained to you we cannot ah other than to support it Flynn Ok Kislyak. That is something ah that is ah part of the position that we have developed within ahem. countries in the region for long period of time But responding to your telephone call and our. conversations we will try to help to postpone the vote and to allow for consultations Flynn. OK ok that s good That s great ambassador That s all we can ask for it at this point and time. Both wish each other with happy Christmas and says that both can call each other anytime. TN Possibly talking about the December 25 2016 vote in UN against Israeli settlements. Russia represented in UN by Churkin voted for it,START DATE 12 29 2016. From Chernyshev Dmitriy Andreyevich,PARTICIPANTS,To General Flynn. RE A message from Kislyak to Flynn need to talk, Before General Flynn s voce message turns on there is an open line barely audible chat. Someone asks Chernyshev Which agency are we talking about Chernyshev asks as to. confirm if he understands the question and responds in the same time Which Agency hackers. did the hacking Believe me Americans did hacked this all After General Flynn s prerecorded. message ends Chernyshev leaves his message Hello General Flynn my name is Dmitry I am. chief of the Russian Ambassador s staff The Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak would like to. have a word with you at your convenience Can you kindly call us back Our office number is. or ambassadors cell phone number it is Thank you Good bye. START DATE 12 29 2016,From General Michael Flynn,PARTICIPANTS. To Kislyak Sergey Ivanovich Russian Ambassador to the U S. Kislyak thanks Flynn for the call he has been waiting for it. First Kislyak wants to discuss the Middle East policy The Russians want to convey to the. President elect that the Russians will not be supporting the American colleagues at the Security. Council Flynn says it is good, Second the Russians are very interesting with working with the President elect s team to help.
peace process in Syria The Russians are thinking about an event in Astana Kazakhstan in. January 20 30 to help the political process to get started The Russians are planning to invite the. Trump Administration to this event, Thirdly the Kremlin would like to convey to the President elect to organize a conversation via. secure video line between the White House and the Kremlin that should be available starting. January 20th and to have a first conversation on January 21 rst between the presidents Putin s. idea is to congratulate Trump and discuss issues Flynn says he understands Kislyak repeats that. he is talking about secure video line, Flynn wants to convey the following to Moscow Do not allow this administration to box us in. right now Kislyak says the have conveyed it very clearly. Flynn So depending on what actions they take over this current issue of cyber stuff where they. are looking like they are going to dismiss some number of Russians out of the country I. understand all that and I understand that the information that they have and all that But I ask. Russia to do is to not if anything I know you have to have some sort of action to only make it. reciprocal don t go any further than you have to because I don t want us to get into something. that have to escalate to tit for tat Do you follow me. Kislyak says he understands what Flynn is saying but Flynn might appreciate the sentiments that. are raging now in Moscow, Flynn I know Believe me I do I very much appreciate it But I really do not want us to get into. the situation where we everybody goes back and forth and everybody had to be a tough guy here. We don t need that right now We need cool heads to prevail And we need to be very steady. about what we are going to do because we have absolutely a common threat in the Middle East. Kislyak agrees Now when FSB and GRU are sanctioned and Kislyak asks himself does it mean. that the U S is not willing to work on terrorist threats Kislyak poses a question Flynn says yes. Kislyak says he heard Flynn and he will try people in Moscow to understand. Flynn repeats asking to reciprocate moderately because if Moscow sends out 60 people you. will shut down the embassy, Flynn Let s keep this at even kill level then when we come in we will have a better. conversation where we are going to go regarding our relationship And also basically we have. to take these enemies on that we have We definitely have a common enemy You have a. problem with it We have a problem with it in this country and we definitely have a problem with. it in the Middle East, Flynn promises to rely about the 21st He cannot commit to it but he will relay it Kislyak says.
Flynn appreciates the reservation of the current administration s position on the Middle East. That doesn t do anybody any good Flynn says they will come up with the solution that is good. for everyone else, Flynn Remember Ambassador you are not talking to a diplomat you are talking to a soldier I. am a very practical guy It is all about solutions, Kislyak is looking for an opportunity to have a longer conversation Flynn says maybe the end. of next week,DECLASSIFIED by DNI Ratcliffe on 29 May 2020. I December 23 2016 Call,Participants,Michael Flynn. Russian Ambassador Sergey lvanovich Kislyak, Russian Diplomat Aleksandr Dmitriyevich Pchelyakov.
Flynn Yes This is General Flynn, Pchelyakov General Flynn Good good afternoon This is Aleksandr calling from the Russian. Embassy Ambassador s office If there s, Pchelyakov If it s no problem cou d I uh put the Ambassador through for you. Flynn No Please put him on Please,Pchelyakov Just a sec. Flynn Hello This is General Flynn, Kislyak Yeah General Uh thank you for picking up uh my call Uh. Flynn Um hm Um hm, Kislyak Uh I just wanted as a follow up to share with you several points One that uh your.
previous uh uh telephone call I reported to Moscow and it was considered at the highest level. in Russia Secondly uh uh here we are pointing PH uh taking into account uh entirely your. uh arguments, Kislyak To raise a proposal or an idea of continued consultations in New York We will do it. Flynn Okay, Kislyak Uh to give time for working out something uh that would be would be uh less. controversial,Flynn Okay That That s good news, Kislyak Uh certainly if uh the others will put it through to a vote and I understand my uh. colleagues tell me that Egyptians are not pressing for a vote. Flynn They re not,Kislyak But there might be others. Flynn Yeah there there l can tell you that there s uh you know a litany of countries that. are that we re talking I m Pm talking directly to And and that. Kislyak I see,Flynn Basically1 just as I asked you.
Kislyak Yeah, Flynn And I think there are a few other countries that are going to abstain Um Egypt Egypt is. uh is in a place you know again pause You know the strategic goal is stability in the. Middle East That s the strategic goal and and you know between you and I and you know. this and we know this and you know and between Moscow and Washington we will not. achieve stability in the Middle East without working with each other against this radical Islamist. crowd Period,Kislyak Yeah, Flynn Okay So rm adamant about that and I want to make sure that you know that and in. conversations that we have in the future if there s a common en a common threat that we. Kislyak I agree with you, Flynn And I m I m I m still sickened sickened by the by the murder of your. Ambassador to Turkey the other day,Kislyak Oh thank you for those sentiments. Flynn I just I m sickened by it So so if if if Russia. Kislyak Interrupts General can you allow me to complete my points my ui of these points. Flynn Please, Kislyak So we will try to help uh uh to give additional time for the conversation on on this.
issue but if it is put on vote uh for historical reasons as I explained to you. Flynn Uh huh, Kislyak We cannot vote uh other than to support it. Flynn Okay, Kislyak That is something uh that is uh part of the position that we have deve1oped with the. um countries in the region for a long period of time But uh responding to your uh telephone. call and our conversations we will try to help uh to uh postpone the vote and to allow for. consultations,Flynn Okay That s that s good, Kislyak We talking over we took on board your ui that you want also to have some time. Flynn Okay Okay,Kislyak to talk about So,Flynn Okay. Kislyak That is something that we will try to do, Flynn Okay That s great That s great Ambassador That s all we can ask for at this point in.
Kislyak Okay Thank you,Flynn Alright Hey thank you so much. Kislyak And happy Christmas and New Years, Flynn Yeah Same to you Same to you And p1ease call me anytime okay. Kislyak Ah the same here, Flynn Please please enjoy your family It s so important right now. Kislyak Thank you iu,Flynn Okay Thank you,Kislyak Thank you iu. Flynn Bye bye,II December 29 2016 Call,Participants.
Michael Flynn,Russian Ambassador Sergey Ivanovich Kislyak. UNKNOWN MALE Russian Embassy Ambassador s office, FLYNN Yeah this is General Flynn He may be using a speaker phone. UNKNOWN MALE Yes I will put Ambassador on the line sir. FLYNN Okay thank you,UNKNOWN MALE Thanks, Call transferred to Ambassador Kislyak Timestamp 00 30. KISL YAK Hello,FLYNN Hi Ambassador this is General Flynn. KISL YAK Oh General thank you very much for calling me back I was trying to reach you for. quite a while because I have several uh issues to raise with you. FLYNN Uh huh, KISLYAK rather to infonn you If you ll allow me one by one.
FLYNN Please, KISL YAK One uh since you were interested in the issue of the Middle East and you called me. on that issue,FLYNN Uh huh,Times amp OJ 00, KISL YAK We wanted to convey to you and through you to the President Elect that we had uh. significant reservations about the idea of adopting now the principles for the Middle East uh. that our American colleagues are pushing for So we are not going to support it to in the. quartet or in the Security Council And we have conveyed to our American colleagues So in the. spirit of full transparency I was asked to infonn you as well. FLYNN Okay, KfSL YAK So it s not something that we Russia are going to support. FLYNN Okay that s good, KISL YAK Secondly we think it requires some additional work and everybody has to be on. FLYNN Of course Am bas sad or of course You know it does You know it does. Some talking over each other, KISL YAK And especially I think taking into account now that US policy might uh be.
changing or not we want to understand what is going to be your policy when and if we are to. implement things that we are working on,FLYNN Right. KISLYAK So the second point ifs also on the Middle East uh our specia ist on the Middle. East say that they are very much interested in working with your specialists on these issues and if. you re available not you personally but your specialists are available even before the. FLYNN Mmhm, KlSL YAK President Elect is has his inauguration on the twentieth for uh we are perfectly. Chernyshev asks as to confirm if he understands the question and responds in the same time Which Agency hackers did the hacking Believe me Americans did hacked this all After General Flynn s prerecorded message ends Chernyshev leaves his message Hello General Flynn my name is Dmitry I am chief of the Russian Ambassador s staff The

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